The Spartans Vs. The Mongols

[Calaras]

Hmmm do you play Rome total war? Would love to show you what happens when Hoplites get hit by cavalry (*hint* it aint pretty)

[firefist]

whose your bookman ? tell em i want one dollar and fifty cents on the mongols

[Calaras]

Odds are good- 100/1 that they win, 6/1 they lose half their army and the rest run like the little nadir they are

[The_Angelic_One]

A few points:

1) The Romans were not always the finest soldiers in the world.. The Legions were the best of their day, later Empire troops were no match for the Legions.
And the gladius was a wonderful close range weapon, but what happens when you face an 8 foot long spear?

2) Horse vs. Spear, spear usually wins and even more so when against a foe so reliant on their mounts. A Mongolian horseman would not charge his hrose into a wall of spears simply because the horse would almost always die and it would be hard to break the formation.

3) I feel sometimes that most peoples perception of the Spartans come from the 300. Which made them all fantastically gifted killers, which is not the case. They were the best soldiers in the world at the time, their discipline and training holding fast against many foes.

4) This whole notion of Sparta being 'rubbish' because they didn't conquer. Nonsense. They were a war-like people with regards to their war-fighting abilities, but they never really sought to subjegate Greece (although I suppose the Helots would disagree).

[firefist]

just got in touch with ma bookie he aint taking bets the T A B closed them something about sparta not lasting the first charge lol, but there taking numbers for a group out of thebes against the spartans there a bunch of fairies lol call themselves the sacred band, there 100 to 1 lol i might put a couple grand on em lmao

[Calaras]

lol
Lets just say that i agree the Mongols were powerful but i will not agree to the idea of a horse army beating a phalanx

[God of War]

Is this serious?

Heavily armoured, highly trained soldiers against little fat men on ponies??

The Spartans in a rout.

[Calaras]

This was dangerously serious . We got quite choked up about it, i'm serious. There were nearly tears.

[Huntsekker]

Got to go for the Mongols here. Quite comfortably too. They are better equipped, more mobile, and more numerous. They defeated all different kinds of armies, in all different kinds of terrain - I can't see them taking long to defeat a style of battle that had been superseded a thousand years previously.

[niall]

THE SPARTANS. Similar to their scrap with the persians